Two characters, two ways of working, collaborating on shared themes and interests in an open process. The project is a curious exploration to understand the function, internal and external life, community, users, programme, connections, etc. of a building (Tabakalera). What is inside the box? What can we hear in its spaces? And outside of them? How do people perceive the centre from the outside? And from the inside? What languages are spoken inside the centre? What non-verbal codes are used? What is the verbal policy and the gender perspective, and what are the relationships between the spaces? What relationship does it have with the city? What types of consumption does it encourage? What is the connection between the physical and digital worlds? What effect do social networks have? We want to analyse all this and many other questions that we have not yet thought of. The project will therefore arise from a conversation; from a discussion between two people.